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Over$100,000 are spent on the class four pokie machines in thecapital every day - $40 million last year - but there arecriticisms over links to gambling addiction.

Data fromthe Problem Gambling Foundation shows that of those who seekprofessional assistance, around half are due to class 4gambling.

A Wellington City Council meetingyesterday finalised a consultation document to gatherpublic feedback on the ban idea.

The council proposesreducing the cap on the number of pokie machines. Currentlythere are 633 machines at 40 venues across the city, but thecap allows 747. If this proposal goes ahead, the cap wouldbe reduced to 660, leaving room for only 27 extra machinesacross the entire city.

More crucially, theconsultation will also include the option of a sinking lidpolicy, which the council has expressed as their preferredoption.

The policy - if it comes into action - meanswhen an existing pokie venue closes down, the council won'tallow a new one to open up.

It would also mean venueswon't be able to increase the number of pokies theyhave.

'We're so pleased that they've supported asinking lid approach,' said chief executive of the ProblemGambling Foundation, Paula Snowden.

'It's aslow-burner solution to a very big problem, we get that, butthe challenge now is: let's look at what Wellington can dowith that diverted gambling.'

Pokies having adisproportionate effect on more deprivedareas

Salvation Army captain Joe Serevi says part ofthe problem is the distribution of the pokie venues. Half ofthem are in areas of medium-high deprivation, another 13 arein areas of medium deprivation.

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As a result, it's thepeople who can least afford to lose money to gambling, whoare.

'They don't have any money, or they have littlemoney,' Serevi said.

'And most of them - that's whythey go gambling. Then the money goes out, and then theycan't get more money back. So the struggle is [with] thefamily, and it's with the children. And it's so hard becausethey don't know anything.'

Pokies have been found toaffect Māori, Pacific and Asian communities at least twiceas much as Pākehā.

Sarevi says there's an urgentneed to get the pokies out of those communities.

'Ifthey put it in a community that has money, they can go intothe pokie - that's fine. But not every community hasmoney.

'If they get rid of it, then it helps thepeople take some responsibility of ownership, of how theyuse their money.'

It was Problem Gambling Foundations'Snowden who said while a sinking lid is the best optionavailable to councils, there needs to be more pressure puton central government to free them up.

She wants tosee a Gamblings Act provision - which would allow theSecretary of the Department of Internal Affairs to go to theminister, and ask for pokies not to be allowed to go intosome communities.

'It's never been exercised, but wethink it's something that central government could do toreally help local councils make those policies moreeffective.'

Not everyone supportive of the sinkinglid

There are those who question the impact ofreducing pokies - while the number of class four venues hasdeclined over the past 15-years, the overall spend throughthat period has remained the same.

Additionally, thereare a number of benefits which come out of themachines.

The hospitality sector itself benefits fromtheir inclusion. Venues are entitled to retain up to 16percent of the proceeds from class 4 gambling. This roughlyequates to about $10,000 each venue.

But where theirbiggest benefit comes is from the grants provided from theproceeds. From 2017 to 2018, more than $60 million was givenout in grants across the Wellington region.

There arecurrently 12 societies that collect the proceeds and dishthem out.

In that same two year period 7,242 grantswere provided. Sport was the main beneficiary, receivingnearly two thirds of that money, with health and welfare;education and research; community; and arts and culture allrecipients.

Environmental and animal beneficiariesreceived the lowest at about $2000.

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Gaming MachineAssociation chairperson Mike Knell said that money beingtaken away will be a blow.

'These are organisationsfrom hospices, ambulances, through to community groups,through to sport.

'Simply to replace the money that isderived as profits from class four would mean finding abouta billion dollars a year, in an economic sense.'

Aheadof the meeting, the head of Government Relations at SportNew Zealand, Dave Adams said taking that funding model awaywould have a significant impact on those who depend onit.

'Play, active recreation and sport in this countryis significantly funded through the proceeds of gambling,and class four is the biggest contributor,' hesaid.

'Community clubs and organisations have becomereliant on this funding, and it has been part of the fundinglandscape for 25 years. Any reduction of funds will have areal impact on the quality and access to play, activerecreation and sport in Wellington.

'The question foryou is: if not funding from class four, thenwhere?'

But with the sinking lid policy being a slowreduction, city councillors argued there will be enough timeto find other fundingmodels.

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